LencoThor - nothing special

[jagisagi]

Good evening to all,
this is my last project, nothing special but really a good one.



It`s a L75 with an Thorens TP11 isotrac. I like it, because there are no problems with the set-up ( the hight of the tonearm, the azimuth, the overhang), everything is easy.









And the best of all: It sounds really great! NO noise, not from the motor, not from the net (50Hz). And when I say NO NOISE, you can believe me (ask John).



The antiscating weight is a light one cause the arm is a light one too. The cables are thick ones from Oelbach with gold plattert cinch.



The installed system is an Ortofon VMS20EO (logical for me) with dynamic and very clear sound (ask John), I love it.

Jürgen

[jagisagi]

May be it`s colour will turn to pink?  

[rfgumby]

Nice work Jurgen.   You seem happy with the Lenco project and.   Anything to compare it to, or it is a general idea about the sound?

That Thorens arm is so strange with the coupling in the middle and the head shell that looks like it can be slid anywhere along the arm.  The over hang looks to be too much, like the arm should be mounted further back.  No?

[jagisagi]

Nice work Jurgen.   You seem happy with the Lenco project and.   Anything to compare it to, or it is a general idea about the sound?

That Thorens arm is so strange with the coupling in the middle and the head shell that looks like it can be slid anywhere along the arm.  The over hang looks to be too much, like the arm should be mounted further back.  No?

Hi Scott,

first: The coupling in the middle is normal for this arm. Yes, the head shell can be slid anywhere along the arm, so there is no problem with the overhang.
second: Anything to compare it to? - There are twelve TTs in the living-room, about 10 TTs in the other rooms and about 20 TTs at the attic (Lencos, Duals, Thorens, Siemens, Telefunkens, Philips, Brauns... ) with different MMs (Ortofon, AudioTechnica, Philips, Denon...) and MCs (AT OC5, AT MC30 and Ortofon Nr2), so I can compare to.
What I really can compare to are my ears, because I`m hearing music many times and over the years (ask John!), so if I say it sounds good, it`s real! There were speaker-projects in my life too, horn-speaker-projects and other good speakers like Braun LS200 (two times award-winner of USA), the only sound I`m missing is the one of Quad ESL (hope it could be real in my life).
The fact is: There`s no noise in sound, and I really don`t hear at low level! So I can hear the quiet things absolutely real.
And if you are comparing, it`s only possible in your home, else it couldn`t never be the same (=compareble??). I`m teacher of hard-of-hearing children, so I know something about Hz and dB, maybe it`s not the equipment but the quality of your ears that limits your hearing, you know?
This was much writing, but now you know now what I`m talking of.
Hope, you can understand my bad English and with really all my best wishes
 I am yours

Jürgen

[rfgumby]

Thank you for the well thought out reply Jurgen, and your English is wonderful.

I can relate to your description of sound and your experience with all the other turntables as a reference.  When it all comes down to it, it is our ears that judge what sounds "real" or "correct", all the measurements in the world matter not if it doesn't sound right to us.  Some of the things that good amplifiers do well is rhythm and timing, the attack and release and decay of sounds that make them sound "real" to us.  There are opinions that equipment can test these attributes, but even then they may not be testing the right thing.  That's not to say scientific testing isn't valid (it is), just that the part that really matters is how we hear it.  That is where the magic lies.   And music is part magic, no?

Congratulations on your working with hearing impaired, very noble.  What's also good is your understanding of frequencies (hz.) and amplitude or sound pressure level (dB)- they help with your hobbies!