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« on: February 12, 2009, 04:53:07 PM »

The Lenco drive system is really a lot niftier then we think.

The short version of this story is:
If it won’t start, lower the motor nose a bit.
If it has an abrupt, loud, jerky start, raise the motor nose a bit.
The idler arm spring is not the real problem, the motor position is.
A jerky start can sometimes also be remedied by adjusting the power switch position, such that the motor only starts after the idler wheel makes contact.

For those of us with a mechanical interest, here is the full story:
Why doesn't my platter turn ? my motor is running fine
Why does my platter only start on 78 rpm ??
Why do I hear the motor springs move when I switch on?

The poor idler arm spring is blamed for almost all Lenco idler drive problems.
Most of the time, putting in a stronger spring solves the problem in the sense that it works after that, but that is not the whole story.
This little spring is not supposed to provide the force needed to prevent “slippage” between the motor shaft (or the platter) and the idler wheel.
The motor springs are supposed to provide that force.
If that statement seems nonsensical, let’s look at how the Lenco design works, it’s quite clever:



So, how does it work?
Upon switch-on, the motor starts turning, and the idler arm spring gently pulls the idler wheel into contact with the platter and the motor shaft.
Now, one of two things will happen, depending on where the motor shaft makes contact with the idler wheel. This "point of engagement" is the key. As you can see from the drawing, The distance between the platter and the motor shaft, as well as the diameter of the idler wheel determine where that point is.

A) The point of engagement is on or above the 45 degree line in the drawing.
In this case, the idler wheel will turn with the motor, but it will not drive the platter, it will slip there. IT DOESN’T WORK!. Twisted Evil

B) The point of engagement is below the 45 degree line.
This is the situation in the drawing. Now, magic happens.
The idler wheel pulls itself tightly in between the platter and the motor shaft, pushing the motor down a bit in the process, and gets a 4 kg plateau up to speed in no time.
IT WORKS! Dancing

When you think about it, it takes a lot of energy to get that heavy plateau started, and thus we need to have a lot of friction between the idler wheel and the motor/platter. The little idler arm spring is in no way powerful enough to provide enough force to cause that much friction. So this is not how it works.
The lenco mechanism is a nice example of a “grabbing” or "self-locking" mechanism, much like that employed in those machines that shoot tennis balls at you (or baseballs on this side of the ocean). If the motor was powerful enough, and could move downward far enough, it would actually throw the idler wheel right to the other side of the motor shaft. Shocked
(Try feeding wood into a table saw the wrong way.... same thing)

Any friction between the motor and the wheel would try to rotate the wheel. Friction between the platter and a wheel which is trying to rotate would try to push the wheel to the left. If the wheel moves to the left a bit, it also pushes the motor down a bit, in against the motor spring. This increases the friction at the motor and at the plateau, which causes more rotation, which causes more force to the left, which…. Well, you get it. Both frictions amplify each other, we have the mechanical equivalent of the famous feedback howl. The wheel will dig itself in, pushing the motor down as far as it needs to in order to maintain contact with both the shaft and the platter. Nifty, isn’t it?
What is missing in the above scenario if the point of engagement is too high is an UPWARD component to the force on the idler wheel. The wheel is not pushed up against the platter, and that is exactly why it slips there.
The 45 degree line is magical, because that is where the wheel can start "swinging around" the motor shaft without having to push the motor down first. (there must be better way to explain that, but I can't think of one right now..)

So.. basically, the force to counteract the friction is supplied by the motor springs. They are not there merely to kill vibrations, they are an essential part of the drive system’s friction regulation mechanism. The little idler arm spring is only a catalyst, once the drive has “engaged”, you can take it out completely, the platter will keep on turning.
The motor position will adjust to the amount of force needed to drive the plateau, is another way of putting it.

Now that we understand how it works, let's look at the motor.
The first thing to note is that the motor shaft is tapered, which means a different point of engagement at different rpm settings, unless the motor is angled upwards a bit in order to compensate for this. (which it is, or should be). If it will only start on 78 rpm, that’s the difference..
The only real variable in positioning the motor are the nose springs. Lenco has gone through a few different lengths and strength of these springs. Now that we know the symptoms of an incorrect position, we can experiment to get it right.

Ideally, you want the engagement point to be just below that magical 45 degree line. That will make for a nice, smooth start.
If the motor hangs too low, there will be too much initial upwards force, which gives an abrupt, jerky start, with a lot of (audible) motor movement.
If there is a difference in start up behaviour at different speeds, the motor's upward angle is not optimal.
Of course, if the motor is not running yet when the idler wheel makes contact with it, the start will always be smooth, regardless of the point of engagement.
On some models, it is possible to adjust the position of the power switch, such that power is only applied to the motor after the idler wheel makes contact.

Why does a stronger idler arm spring help? A stronger spring gives enough starting friction to help get the motor below that magical line, where it should have been already.

And finally, a note for those who swap a 50 hz motor for a 60 hz one:
Because the diameter of the shafts is different, the point of engagement will shift, and you may have to tinker with the nose springs a bit.

And another thing.... I have seen some Lencos with bent idler arms, perhaps because someone has tried to solve a start up problem. The idler wheel should be plumb vertical, and at a tangent to the platter, much like the cantilever to the record.


Text by Sander
Illustration by Trond
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