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Author Topic: L75 Tonearm? WHO designed this flawed arm?  (Read 2926 times)
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« Reply #30 on: April 03, 2013, 10:36:19 PM »

Chris, I think that they're all good solutions. I just wanted to try this low-tech approach because I can do it.

I have the ball bearing parts too, which would have to be adapted. I need to think about roller bearings regarding centering, end friction, etc. In railroad application, I know that a tapered roller design has been successful. I believe that this has a self-centering action.

Anyway, that was my logic.
I dont think centering should be an issue as if the bearings as they should be are an interference fit to the shaft then there should be no lateral play.
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« Reply #31 on: April 04, 2013, 01:49:18 AM »

Say you what !!!!!

In between i've changed to a Micro Seiki...
http://www.lencoheaven.net/forum/index.php?topic=11544.msg177748#msg177748

MAYBE...there're a hell of other drop in's maybe better or worse...
BUT...i came back when i's playing around with stacked platters....
http://www.lencoheaven.net/forum/index.php?topic=12037.0

The good ol L75 tonearm gimme more then i've ever expected !!!

THIS original tonarm is NOT flawed or crap or anything you mean.....
WHO said that !!???
With new v-blocks,the right allignment/arrangement (maybe a new wiring) and a lil bit of sensitivity...
it's a great playing/scanning arm !!!!
It just needs somekind of attention !!

Just my 2cents !!!  lipsrsealed

Edit:
Some impressions.....
http://www.lencoheaven.net/forum/index.php?topic=11086.msg171825#msg171825



   

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« Reply #32 on: April 04, 2013, 10:39:10 AM »

Say you what !!!!!

In between i've changed to a Micro Seiki...
http://www.lencoheaven.net/forum/index.php?topic=11544.msg177748#msg177748

MAYBE...there're a hell of other drop in's maybe better or worse...
BUT...i came back when i's playing around with stacked platters....
http://www.lencoheaven.net/forum/index.php?topic=12037.0

The good ol L75 tonearm gimme more then i've ever expected !!!

THIS original tonarm is NOT flawed or crap or anything you mean.....
WHO said that !!???
With new v-blocks,the right allignment/arrangement (maybe a new wiring) and a lil bit of sensitivity...
it's a great playing/scanning arm !!!!
It just needs somekind of attention !!

Just my 2cents !!!  lipsrsealed

Edit:
Some impressions.....
http://www.lencoheaven.net/forum/index.php?topic=11086.msg171825#msg171825



   



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There's a herd mentality surrounds the sound of this arm.
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« Reply #33 on: April 19, 2013, 02:19:40 PM »


I begin now the process of thinking thru how to "fix" one that is sagging badly. Certainly I will come up with something better than dental floss and glue

Did anybody use teflon tape instead of dental floss? 
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« Reply #34 on: April 19, 2013, 05:12:22 PM »

I feel that the Lenco arm is a mixture of good and bad. So, my approach is to save what's good and replace what isn't.

The problem with fooling around with the original de-coupling arrangement is that this was originally designed using a mathematical formula regarding the flexibility/vibration rate, etc. I've never seen anyone talk about this in print.

Many arms have incorporated de-coupling. Many of the cheap "S"-armed Japanese turntables from the 70s and 80s had de-coupled weights. Turntables that incorporated brainpower, such as the good Dual changers, had well-designed decoupling assemblies. Lenco's is the worst I've ever seen: the engineers blew it badly because they didn't realize that the piano wire would stretch. Someone's brain was not engaged that day!

And I have no idea how one goes about restoring those original parameters. I'd rather make the arm one solid, rigid beam and be done with it. I realize that doing this will limit the range of styli that will be usable, especially the highest-compliance ones, but that's the price for stability in the original arm.

What I'd like to know is what the actual mass of the arm will be (or a humane way that we can measure this ourselves) when we're done solidifying it. This dental floss (and my harpsichord string) solution is not rigid enough. Maybe welding is in order?
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